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Uploaded by Chris Love | November 24, 2008
Matt Knowles explains a loophole in the 2009 rules that may lead to an interesting situation in team racing.
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Confirmation
3 years ago
Yes to all |
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To confirm...
3 years ago
Matt, can you please clarify: |
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Matt Knowles
3 years ago
ISAF has finally spoken: |
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chinmaster
3 years ago
This Technique Tuesday was discussed and used on Sailx.com |
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Sailgroove News
3 years ago
A shorter version: http://www.sailgroove.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234352-the-rules-rrs-2009-2012/110273-the-move |
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Matt Knowles
3 years ago
Uh oh -- looks like this move has appeared in the wild: |
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Matt Knowles
3 years ago
Ricardo- |
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Ricardo Lobato
3 years ago
Hi Matt, |
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3 years ago
Sounds like you all need an atorney on board. Good luck with new rules....Great explanation Matt. Thanks. |
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Matt Knowles
3 years ago
Geoff- |
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3 years ago
I think I am like many who think this doesn't seem right. I have been looking at this scenario and have a question... |
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3 years ago
MK wrote:18.3 doesn't apply simply because the two boats were NOT approaching the mark on opposite tacks. They approached the mark on the same tack, one tacked and was no longer "approaching the mark". Also, the tack must occur after they are on opposite tacks. In this case the boat tacked, creating the opposite tack situation that is a pre-requisite for rule 18.3 and not tack occurred once that was the case. |
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MK
3 years ago
Vsmith- |
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VSmith St. Mary's '08
3 years ago
I think the change from Appendix D can still make a difference. The first sentence of 18.2 C is |
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MK
3 years ago
A good question. I don't think that 18.3 would be activated. There are three conditions for 18.3 to turn off 18.2 |
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Anonymous
3 years ago
Does 18.3 then turn-off 18.2 ie: |
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MK
3 years ago
the change from Appendix D isn't relevant; 18.2(c) turns off rule 18.2(b) when either boat crosses head to wind. |
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Anonymous
3 years ago
Appendix D - Team racing rules says: |
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Tha 2-3-4
3 years ago
Somehow that just doesn't seem right... |

1) Yes, this is in line with what I explain in the video. However, remember that this move doesn't apply at a windward mark (i.e., a mark that ends a beat to windward).2) The ICSA rule is not affected; this call would not apply in college sailing.
3) Yes, that boat would have room.