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2 years ago
Patrick what do you think? |
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2 years ago
Alright guys, really simple here. Look up call D.4. I think it covers this situation pretty easily. |
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2 years ago
Had there been contact during Jenson's tack it would be a DSQ for Jenson under rule 13, which is part of what makes the slam dunk a risky maneuver. However, since Jenson was able to complete his tack and keep clear and the contact followed his reaching a close hauled course, I would say it is a breach of rule 16.1 by MAX.... MAX=DSQ. |
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2 years ago
Jenson is the give way boat while tacking under R13 and becomes the give way boat when his tack is complete under R11. He must Keep Clear of Max. Keep clear means that max can sail his chosen course. I think Jensen tacked too close |
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2 years ago
that was max's foul. Jensen couldn't possibly have avoided that collision and because Max altered course as Jensen was tacking |
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2 years ago
oops on the last part. i meant penalize M on the first part (as seen on video). second part was written right. |
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2 years ago
Looks like the timing of Max heading up isn't the issue but rather that he continues to alter course after Jenson has crossed head to wind-Penalize J. If M held course when J crosses head to wind and there is contact-penalty to J. |
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2 years ago
the descriptions make it seem like jensen is wrong but the video shows max headed up too late and also didnt make an effort to avoid collision/ allow jensen to avoid |
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2 years ago
16.2? |
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2 years ago
See call D4. It appears that Max headed up too late and failed to give Jensen room. Had he immediately headed up once crossing Jensen's stern but before he crossed head to wind, it probably would have been a foul on Jensen. |
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2 years ago
definately headed up to late |
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2 years ago
no time to avoid for jensen |
This is another interesting situation that could be called different ways.
The reference to D4 is correct, specifically Question/Answer 2 of D4. Link to the callbook is here
http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/ISAFCallBookforTeamRacingRevisedNov09-[8151].pdf
There is more to this than what is outlined in D4 however.
First we start with a port/starboard. The port boat (keep clear) sails a course astern of the starboard boat. The only issue (not in the testimony, but visible in the video) at time 0:36, we see the starboard tack boat begins to turn into a tack as the port tack boat is ducking. IF an umpire thinks that the port tack boat at this point has to duck additionally because of this turn, then 15708 could get a penalty for breaking 16.2.
at time 0:37, it appears 15708 is head to wind, and therefore the keep clear boat. This is also when 13215 begins turning up, and is required to respect 16.1.
Since it is very clear that the first contact occurs while 13215 is turning, then he (Max) breaks 16.1.
So in review the following 2 scenarios could happen. Both boats could get flagged (Jensen for breaking 16.2, and Max for breaking 16.1), or just Max gets flagged for 16.1.