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Uploaded by Patrick Rynne | March 12, 2010

Here we have a brother-battle with one boat trying to pin the other past port tack layline.

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Patrick Rynne 2 years ago

In this video, the "critical moment" is at time 0:46.

At this point we have Duncan (15706) possibly clear ahead, and possibly overlapped with Christopher (15705). If the boats are overlapped at this point, than Duncan is not entitled to call for room to duck behind Liza since she is in the process of jibing from port to starboard, and therefore is a keep clear boat (refer to the definition of Obstruction in the back of the rulebook)
If Duncan were clear ahead at this point, than he is free to sail astern of her.
What you cannot hear in the video is that Duncan did call for room to duck, which he is not entitled to do, since the boat he is ducking is not an obstruction. This pretty much sinks Duncan's chances of getting a favorable call on the water.
If Liza were on starboard tack the entire time, then Duncan would be able entitled to room ONLY IF Christopher were sailing a course astern of her.
But even if Liza were an obstruction, due to Rule 19.2 (a), Christopher gets to decide which side to pass her. Since he was trying to head up, Duncan has to keep clear.
So more likely than not, Duncan is getting the flag on this one. The only chance he has is if the Umpire gets a clear view that he broke the overlap in the last second before reaching Liza. In that case, it would be a Green.
~patrick

Alex Curtiss 2 years ago

GREEN

Dan Barlow 2 years ago

That certainly simplifies things. I can't see exactly when the call for room was made, but it looks as though room is not taken until the "port tack boat" has gybed to starboard. According to the definition of obstruction, this boat is now an obstruction because Duncan is required to keep clear of it. According to 19.2, Duncan may choose which side to pass the obstruction if he is a r-o-w boat in relation to Chris (which I believe he is.)

Note: If the third boat were still on port tack when the call was made, Chris could argue that it's an invalid hail because a boat that is racing is not an obstruction unless Duncan is required to keep clear. Duncan could argue back that his abrupt change in course required him to initially keep clear of the port tack boat anyway in accordance with 16.1. The arguing could continue until one of them says something like, "takes one to know one," and a punch is thrown, at which point we should probably drop the issue.

Patrick Rynne 2 years ago

Okay, from our class last night it is clear there is a bit of confusion on this one. Mostly because I did not describe the situation clearly enough.

All boats in the video are on a beat to windward. You can see mark #1 of a digital "N" course at time 0:36.
The protest is based around the incident at time 0:44. #15705 (chris) claims he is leeward boat and that #15706 must keep clear. #15706 calls for room to pass astern of a port tack boat.
see if this changes how you see the situation

Dan Barlow 2 years ago

This is pretty similar to call D1 with a few exceptions.
I will use black life jacket BLJ and Yellow Life jacket YLJ to label boats.
As both boats are beating to starboard...
What? No.

Duncan (BLJ) starts as right-of-way (r-o-w) leeward boat, same tack, overlapped and Chris (YLJ) keeps clear in accordance with rule 11. As the boats turn down, Duncan becomes r-o-w boat, clear ahead and Chris continues to keep clear in accordance with rule 12. As the boats become overlapped again, Chris becomes r-o-w boat, overlapped, same tack, but is also subject to rules 15 and 16.1 (regarding initially giving room to keep clear and giving room to keep clear when changing course, respectively.) As soon as the overlap is established, Duncan begins to keep clear of Chris by heading up. Chris keeps clear of Duncan by continuing to head down.

At this point, the angle of the video is not perfect, but it appears that Duncan immediately breaks the overlap, becoming a r-o-w boat via rule 12. This allows Duncan to continue sailing downwind and ask for room to head down to avoid the third boat, in accordance with rule 19.2a. Chris continues to keep clear.

Green flag. Nice pin Chris.

If we had a better angle for the last part, and discovered that Duncan did not break the overlap, and was sailing downwind with his brother to leeward of him, patiently waiting for Duncan to head up, I would penalize Duncan for rule 11. Furthermore, upon reaching the obstruction, Duncan would be the keep-clear boat and would not get to decide which side to pass on. Chris makes that decision in accordance with 19.2a. Again, I don't think that's what happened.

2 years ago

This is pretty similar to call D1 with a few exceptions.
I will use black life jacket BLJ and Yellow Life jacket YLJ to label boats.
As both boats are beating to starboard, YLJ had a proper pin on BLJ and does the correct move by going down with him... However both boats while turned down were on the same tack.... There was no longer an overlap between the two boats and YLJ no longer has rights to head BLJ above his proper course... Proper course being defined as fastest route around the mark. This being said YLJ is penalized under rule 15 and 11. Had BLJ had jibed onto port this call would be different and the same as call D1... With the video though you can see the BLJ break the overlap and therefor require YLJ to sail his proper course.