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3 years ago
There have been sailors tacking 420's like that in Europe for over 20 years - more than one 420 world youth champion has had that in their repertoire - works better with shaped foils and good rig shape. In the RIGHTconditions it can be fast. The gain is not in the intial speed out of the attack...a huge roll and pump gives you that; however, the flow takes much longer to reestablish and stabilize over the rig and foils and this is where the gains in a smooth tack are made as flow established quicker and you get back up to top speed quicker...rather than fast, slump, slowly up to max speed. You see this in the longer slower tacks that are now used in the V15 fleet. Avoiding the scoot back to tack which shakes the rig and detaches flow also helps. No it's the way to go all the time...and it may not be the way to go for most people; however, don't be so quick to knock it until you have spent a month learning how to do it. |
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3 years ago
I've tried that before... and found it's not a bad idea, but it might not be worth the effort to really make it really great. My high school coach actually had us do light-air drills a couple times where we would do tacks like that, and at first it was really cool but by the end everyone was ready to go back to the normal way of tacking. It can be especially awkward for a dude-skipper to be that far forward and it also makes footwork for the crew sort of difficult. It might not make a big difference in fleet racing but in team racing or situations where you have to do a lot of tacking it can get a little tiring. |
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3 years ago
girls you are defeating the purpose of using your weight to steer! you're using too much rudder with all that weight forward of the CLR. (weight aft to head up / weight forward to head down) Big roll and Slow flatten to not break 42 with crew recoil to leeward and simultaneous jib and mainsail pump! It u wanna get really crafty try the fj style aft facing slithering transitions between he fourth and pressed upwind modes. |
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3 years ago
Girls a little idea that seems to work well the few times we have tried it. In light Air have the tiller and mainsheet run inside the bridle to the front of the boat. Makes it much easier. At the 2003 Team Race Worlds a Czech Republic boat did the most smooth 720 (in int. 420) all in front of the bridle is was pretty beautiful. P Dog you back in the mother land? |
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3 years ago
I've seen Colin and Amanda do this in V15s and College 420s. Not sure if they do it in competition, but it is a pretty sweet freestyle move! Colin, how about a reply video? |
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3 years ago
I agree Badger, you get no pump out of the main, and there's really very little roll there from the crew either. I've tried rolling on the forward part of the trunk in light air in the past, and have found it is not efficient. The close proximity to the shrouds can limit the outward movement of the crew, resulting in less roll. |
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3 years ago
not sold. looks sloppy and slow. put some boots on and roll and flatten harder. |
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3 years ago
interesting, but only works in club rigged 420's, also you do not get any pump out of the main which coud make you slower getting back up to speed. seems like your crew weight would have to be light for this to work. i think not getting to pump out of the main would be the biggest thing though. |
you have to ease your main through a tack or else you dont get the full effect of a roll tack